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Housing: It’s Different This Time

Toll Brothers F4Q06 (Qtr End 10/31/06) Earnings Call Transcript - SeekingAlpha

As we previously announced, this quarter’s results were negatively impacted by a higher than normal 585 cancellations. With these cancellations creating unintended specs, we could face increasing margin pressure as we seek to move these homes. Right now it’s a great time to buy a new luxury home. Builders are motivated to sell their specs and the fundamentals that typically lead our industry out of the slowdown are already in place. Interest rates are near historic lows, unemployment is near an all-time low and the stock market is setting records.

The thing is, interest rates and unemployment were near all-time lows when the housing downturn started. What makes them think that those factors will help the market improve now?

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Toll Brothers (TOL): So Much for That Single-digit P/E

Despite a slowdown in the housing market, the homebuilder bulls have been able to take solace in the notion that the very low earnings multiples most homebuilding stocks boast would cushion the stocks from further downside. Unfortunately, the E can change as much or more as the P.

Toll posts lower profit - Yahoo! News

In its fiscal fourth quarter that ended on October 31, profit fell to $173.8 million, or $1.07 per share, from $310.3 million, or $1.84 per share, a year earlier. Analysts had expected $1.06 per share.Toll said it expected earnings of $1.58 to $2.08 a share for fiscal 2007.

Its shares fell 3.2 percent to $30.90 in electronic trading before the market opened.

The old rule of thumb for cyclicals is to buy when the P/E is high and sell when it is low. The question now is whether it is high enough. But for the record, this discussion is the very reason we remain cautious on semiconductors.

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The Goods on Capital Goods

The signs of a housing slowdown are mounting. The question is how long and how deep it will be, as well as the extent to which it will impact consumer spending. The slowdown has impacted Home Depot, and housing prices have begun to fall in 59 of 151 measured markets.

Watch List member Orleans Homebuilders Inc. (OHB), following other national homebuilders, has cut its outlook for its current fiscal year as it experiences a rise in cancellations for new houses as well as other signs of a softening residential market. Orleans had a 58 percent cancellation rate in Florida for the year, with many investors simply backing out of buying. Overall, new orders dropped 13 percent and the cancellation rate was 23 percent, up from 14 percent from a year ago.

On their recent conference call, Watch List member Toll Brothers (TOL) had several discouraging words.

Third quarter revenues were $1.53 billion, compared to 1.54 billion in fiscal year ‘05.

Backlog was $5.59 billion, compared to 6.43 billion in fiscal year ‘05, and signed contracts were 1.05 billion, compared to 1.92 billion in fiscal year ‘05.

We believe we will deliver between 2,500 and 2,800 homes in the fourth quarter of fiscal year ‘06, compared to the 2,900 to 3,300 homes of our previous guidance.
It appears that the current housing slowdown, which we first saw in September ‘05, is somewhat unique: It is the first downturn in forty years – in the forty years since we entered the business that was not precipitated by high interest rates, a weak economy, job losses or other macroeconomic factors. Instead, it seems to be the result of an oversupply of inventory and a decline in confidence.

Speculative buyers who spurred demand in ‘04 and ‘05 are now sellers; builders who built speculative homes must now move their specs; and nervous buyers are canceling contracts for homes already under construction. Because much of the overhang of finished and near-finished product is being marketed using advertised price reductions and increased sales incentives, many anxious consumers are delaying their purchase decisions as they wonder about the direction of home prices.

Faced with heavy discounting by many other builders, we generally have chosen to allow sales phases to slow rather than aggressively discount our home prices. Other than in our multi-family communities, in which we start a building after having sold some but not all of the units, we rarely start a single detached home without a buyer’s signed agreement and a substantial down payment.

We are willing to walk away from land deals under option that no longer work due to today’s weaker market conditions and slower sales paces, if we are unable to renegotiate the land purchases. When we announce earnings on Aug 22, ‘06, we will announce our write-downs related to such options.

We have seen an increase in our cancellation rates in a number of markets, including Orlando, Northern California, Palm Springs, Las Vegas, and Phoenix.

Given that the consumer accounts for roughly two thirds of GDP, a slowdown in consumer spending would have a far greater impact on GDP than the relatively mild business-led recession of earlier in the decade.

Other than the homebuilders, however, Capital Goods providers have been doing well. Ceradyne (CRDN) raised their guidance, though the growth rate in orders is tailing off in line with our expectations. We also think Embraer (ERJ) is in the right place at the right time.

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On Proper Pricing

Saw this piece and one comment jumped out at us:

Manhattan real estate second-quarter reports - Jul. 6, 2006

Prudential Douglas Elliman CEO, Dottie Herman, reports the Manhattan market is brimming with confident buyers - and sellers too are doing well, if they only listen to reason.

“The only things lagging,” Herman says, “are properties that are not priced right. Some people got spoiled; things sold no matter what. Now it’s a lot more balanced, but anything priced properly sells.”

In order for there to be a transaction, the buyer and seller have to agree on a price. That price, unless there is some kind of behind-the-scenes activity, can generally be considered the “proper price.”

So last year when prices were being bid up, higher prices might have been proper. Next year, “priced properly” could very well mean “priced far less than they were one year ago.”

Saying “anything priced properly sells” is an empty tautology.

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